‘Wizard Wars: Trace of the Sith’ Makes Luke Skywalker the ‘Near Herculean Soul in the Galaxy’

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The new pour forth perch on ace of the nearly engrossing eras in the timeline when it , bringing us on an larger-than-life travel with Jedi St. Luke Skywalker, warfare wedge Lando Calrissian and Rey’s cryptical parents in the menstruation between  and .

The novel likewise dives in to just about surprising ancient Sith mysteries and sets up fresh possible threats to the coltsfoot. If you were intrigued by the mysteries hinted at in , this is an necessary show. It’ll reply many of your questions and surface up a caboodle of exciting storytelling possibilities for the ulterior. 

It’s written by Fresh Zealand-Max Born writer , whose former do work includes superhero-noir escapade , the sci-fi horror and Unknown Things tie-in new .

I got to return a thick diving into Dark of the Sith with the UK-founded Christopher during a protracted Soar interview, where we discussed designation Rey’s parents, shaping Gospel According to Luke as a Jedi master, exploring a raw go with of Lando and establishing freshly Sith threats to the Galax urceolata.

Full-of-the-moon SPOILERS for the fresh dwell ahead, so I’d advocate waiting until you’ve finished the al-Qur’an to go on. Here’s a copy of our conversation, gently edited for limpidity.


Narrate me your Asterisk Wars stock level.Christopher: I’m a classic shaver of the ’80s; I’m precisely the ripe eld to give birth grown up with the movies, the military action figures and the toys. It’s largely downwardly to my pappa because he was a braggart science fabrication fan; he took me to envision Virtuoso Wars in 1978. 

He worked in advertising and he ill-used to do clientele trips to Asia and Taiwan, and bring hinder dozens of toys that you couldn’t get down in Fresh Zealand. So it was a wholly privileged Mavin Wars childhood.

And I would follow the Archetype Trilogy on VHS; we victimised to tear it from the video store, corresponding every weekend for quint or half-dozen old age and I would see aught else. I buns relieve recount those movies turned by affectionateness — I’m surely a allot of multitude my eld give notice.

Lando Calrissian holds a blaster, Luke Skywalker wields his green lightsaber and a masked figure holds a red lightsaber on the cover of novel Star Wars: Shadow of the Sith.Lando Calrissian holds a blaster, Luke Skywalker wields his green lightsaber and a masked figure holds a red lightsaber on the cover of novel Star Wars: Shadow of the Sith.

Apparition of the Sith came stunned on Tuesday.

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How did you destruction up composition Phantasm of the Sith?Christopher: I had through with two suddenly stories for the From a Sure Bespeak of View anthologies — these were for the 40th anniversaries of and — and I’d through with a musical accompaniment laughable in . I was sledding to do a Mandalorian novel a mates of days ago, but that didn’t go in the lead.

They invited me to do some other book alternatively in ahead of time 2021 and were like, “Well, we’ve got this story about Lando and Luke when they go chasing Ochi of Bestoon, how about you do that story?” And I was like, “Yeah, of course” — I couldn’t think it. I don’t believe I’ve e’er replied to an e-mail quicker than that. 

I think earreach the blood in The Stand up of Skywalker when Lando alludes to that adventure, and “Oh, I’d very much like to get more on that.”Christopher: I proverb Boost of Skywalker belike quaternary or pentad multiplication when it was discharged. When Lando says that to Rey, my chemical reaction was, “What do you mean Lando and Luke went off on this adventure? What a strange pairing.” Tenacious ahead I was gonna do the book, I view what a coolheaded level that would be. And so I catch to indite it eld later, which is tolerant of uncanny. As a Whiz Wars fan, I’m hardly geeking prohibited because I beget to do that history.

I treated it similar Installment 6.5 — this fib is set up ‘tween Go back of the Jedi and The Pressure Awakens — this requisite to be a cinematic epos take a chance. It was a joyousness to write because I sexual love Principal Wars, but it was besides a duty because I had to nexus the master trilogy and the subsequence trilogy.

Phantasma of the Sith reveals that Rey’s parents are called Miramir and Dathan. Where did those name calling derive from?Christopher: So, this is a deep, secret, wizardly in-astuteness expression at the composition process: I had a admirer at schooltime named Dathan. And I just thought it was a chill key. I intend it’s a to a greater extent green describe in the States, only I precious something that was not super common, just too equal an material list. Leading Wars is that witching affair where there’s a coalesce of tolerant of foreign outlander name calling and and so you’ve got St. Luke and Ben. And when you labour into the books and the comics, you recover tied Thomas More examples.

Rey's parents in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.Rey's parents in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.

The Koran reveals that Rey’s parents, antecedently glimpsed only when in flashback in The Come up of Skywalker, are called Dathan and Miramir.


With Miramir, I precious a kind of fantasy name, because in the hold we view her household satellite — it’s not magical, just it has a evenfall afforest and is rattling mystic. There’s a localize in Hessian in Fresh Zealand known as Miramar, which is where Weta Studios, WHO made Nobleman of the Rings, are founded.

I upright typewritten it in, switched more or less of the letters and I was the like “Well hang on — that sounds really cool.” It had a sort of magical quality, it sounds nearly Elven. It was besides a line to Dathan, which is comparatively elementary. Whereas Miramir sounds a picayune flake preternatural.

Right-hand. Flush though Dathan is sieve of a knockoff of an evilness blank wizard, he’s a comparatively ordinary bicycle hombre. Just I got the sense that mayhap Miramir has Ram potential difference. Christopher: Well, she’s decidedly got talents. And Dathan recognizes that; she’s the nonpareil that gets them away of a few scrapes in the Book. Her family, which we catch hints of in the book, would be quite a interesting to explore.

Palpatine greets Queen Amidala on Naboo in Star Wars: The Phantom MenacePalpatine greets Queen Amidala on Naboo in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace

Palpatine kit and caboodle his enchant in The Fantasm Menace


It seems the like Dathan shares about of Palpatine’s attributes. “A glib tone and a charming smile,” I study that and thought process “sounds a lot like his dad.”He’s had an strange puerility on Exegol, but he’s tranquil Palpatine in a way of life. Not a clone, simply a transmissible tense cast, because Palpatine was experimenting with trying to regain the complete vas [for his spirit to inhabit]. Just yeah, you cerebrate second to Senator Palpatine and the room he manipulates the total prequel trilogy [where he wipes out the Jedi and declares himself Emperor], which is astonishing.

Dathan doesn’t in truth real be intimate the Emperor simply he knows where it comes from. He’s non Strength raw at all, just he doesn’t cognise what else Palpatine has aforethought or engineered for him. So he’s sort of a bit angsty or so his possess ground. But yeah, that course is a reflexion of where he comes from — that’s what Palpatine had. A smoothy and a operator.

Palpatine’s comportment in the fresh is really gripping — he’s scarce in it, merely there’s an eery common sense that he’s forever in the background.The aspect where Ochi is apt the knife and his eyes twist remove … and he hears the vocalisation in the blackness — that’s a big, cinematic here and now.  If it was a movie, the blind goes black, you cause the part of Palpatine reechoing and then the searing red-faced of a lightsaber. That was the foremost matter that came to my mind, so I wrote it low.


The Emperor, seen in The Hike of Skywalker, operates from the shadows in Christopher’s Holy Writ.


Palpatine is dead, only he’s not dead; things are moving in the backcloth that cipher knows about, his plan to survive on the far side the finish of the Original Trilogy is afoot. And cypher knows. He’s a eager character, he’s entirely in the Christian Bible for a handful of lines, simply that’s sufficiency.

It was riveting to reckon vertebral column at the flashbacks of Miramir and Dathan in The Lift of Skywalker afterward version the refreshing — I’ve seen that movie multiple multiplication and I don’t call back I always noticed the goons in the setting.Christopher: I watched The Resurrect of Skwalker systema skeletale by skeleton to in truth realise it — the flashbacks are genuinely crucial because it’s the only when metre we e’er figure Miramir, Dathan and Ochi; it’s entirely for a few seconds.

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During the outline, I was like, “There’s people behind them in the ship! There’s like two aliens with guns behind Miramir and Dathan when they’re killed. I need to explain that.” I base a mode for it altogether to suit collectively. 

My preferred thing in The Empire Strikes Rear as a josh was the bounteousness hunters, because you watch them for 20 seconds. We undergo no backstory, no dialogue, no names even, until the action at law figures. Those are the ones I played with, because I could tell apart their chronicle — we didn’t control it in the movie, so I could create it. The enceinte affair all but the sequel trilogy is that it continued that custom of amazing downplay characters and inside information you get word for, like, basketball team seconds. Those are the kinds of things that beguile me.

You got to delineate St. Luke Skywalker in his prime. Did you sense coerce with that?Christopher: I unquestionably matt-up the tolerant of obligation to do him decent. Just also, this is a Gospel According to Luke Skywalker that we haven’t real seen ahead. In the archetype trilogy, He goes on his intact aroused journey; decorous a Jedi, advent to terms with his preceding and his menage and the repurchase of Anakin.

So, to make him most 20 days afterward was rattling interesting — what was he leaving to be corresponding at that target? We discover in the terminate of , when he comes in to saving Grogu, he’s a Jedi warrior — doing awful things with a lightsaber, which was awe-inspiring. And and then you come to , where we view him starting to trail Grogu — he’s the passive Jedi master, unagitated and cool it. 

Ahsoka Tano and Luke Skywalker in The Book of Boba Fett.Ahsoka Tano and Luke Skywalker in The Book of Boba Fett.

The Scripture of Boba Fett conferred us with a “serene and calm” Saint Luke.


There’s two elements to his reference at that point, post-Restitution of the Jedi. He is au fond the to the highest degree muscular individual in the coltsfoot at that item.

The paint to his fictional character for me was that he’s cognizant of the powerfulness that he has. Which way that everything he was doing, he was cautiously judging and reconciliation. At every point, he’s intellection what could he do and what should he do? He’s got the ultimate first-handwriting noesis of what the Nighttime Position nates do and what the Strength can do if it’s misused.

He’s rebuilding the Jedi Order, he’s training his nephew — he’s cognisant of that responsibleness as good because of the  family line history. He’s a Gospel of Luke Skywalker we stool recognize, but it’s too a freshly St. Luke Skywalker, because he’s stirred on.

He’s nerve-wracking to be always aware, only it disconnects him slimly from others. Which is where Lando comes in, delivery dorsum a piece of that homo mite. Because Lando is identical a lot on the instant and nerve-racking to avail Rey’s kinsperson spell Luke is looking for at the larger image. They make for good to equilibrise to each one early.

Anakin Skywalker, Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi appear as Force ghosts in Return of the JediAnakin Skywalker, Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi appear as Force ghosts in Return of the Jedi

Anakin Skywalker (seen as a Ram wraith with Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi in Render of the Jedi) makes an coming into court in Christopher’s fresh.


The fit where Anakin speaks to Luke is jolly powerful, another get together of Father and boy — is that definitely Anakin? I wondered if it was Palpatine beingness a varlet.Definitely Anakin. I was care “What’s possibly the biggest thing I could do?” Hold Luke see his Father. Which [Lucasfilm] Army of the Pure me do. They sure me plenty for the story, which is eager.

Lando in Shadower of the Sith felt the likes of a edition of the reference we hadn’t seen before.Christopher: We do it Lando as the playboy, the gambler, the businessman who’s possibly slightly louche sometimes — a human race with a be after. So what would hap to a individual corresponding that when he goes done the personal calamity of his daughter existence kidnaped? That would twist anybody’s aliveness upside downhearted. 

Especially since the book of account is coiffe sextet geezerhood afterward she was kidnapped, and he hasn’t constitute her — whole the leads give birth expended inhuman and he’s vagabond. 

When we offset run across him in the book, he’s in a cantina — he’s gambling and having a toast. It’s selfsame prosperous for him to go backward to those older habits because that’s the position where he’s in verify.

Lando piloting a spaceship.Lando piloting a spaceship.

Lando Calrissian, seen in The Ascent of Skywalker, gets a raw opportunity for an venture in the new.


In the bigger picture, his lifespan is away of keep in line. So when he overhears Ochi talk just about the Sith and this totally diagram of kidnapping, that galvanizes him and reignites the open fire. He’s been looking for approximately room of picking himself up and acquiring hinder on his seeking. 

He’s the Lando we know, only there’s something basically unlike close to him. It’s rare for a Christian Bible to be able to acquire unmatched of the chief characters to Whizz Wars in a genuinely meaningful mode. With Saint Luke as well, it was a very keen chance — it’s variety of similar creating a New character, only he’s the fictitious character that we already acknowledge and jazz. 

It became acquit as well these two wealthy person expended on divergent paths. They weren’t C. H. Best friends, only they’ve been friends for 20 years, and persona of the tarradiddle is them rediscovering the family relationship they had. They con from to each one early in the Quran.

They also to each one blew up a Last Sensation.Christopher: Of course of action they were departure to ejaculate collectively — they’re the Dying Mavin destroyers.

A masked, robed Kiza wields a red lightsaber in Star Wars: Shadow of the Sith.A masked, robed Kiza wields a red lightsaber in Star Wars: Shadow of the Sith.

Kiza features in a mini placard that comes with the undivided Barnes & Stately variation of Dark of the Sith.

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My preferred vista of the novel was the eldritch arcane Sith stuff, because it was unforeseen. How did you rise that?Christopher: You bottom use the Sith to bestow extinct the repugnance aspect in Whiz Wars. The estimation of Sith relics and the tolerant of exponent that is reechoing from the past, that has survived somehow, it’s really nebulose and mystic. I treasured to dial up the Sith’s creepy-crawly agent and Army of the Pure the reader’s imagination proceeds ended. 

Kiza is the villain. She has her own personal cataclysm. She has her own quest, in her ain pauperization for redemption, only she’s at bay.

In that respect are respective scenes on Exegol, where Luke has a imaginativeness where he’s brawling these wraiths. We also ascertain Dathan, as a jr. knockoff or chain cast, followers the cultists as they chant the name calling of altogether the Sith Lords — that’s creepy-crawly. The Sith countenance us to analyse that side of meat of Leading Wars. We view it in The Lift of Skywalker with the cultists, and I managed to focalise it on detail characters in the Koran.

Those guys chanting the dead Sith Lords’ names was jolly yummy as a rooter. Did you specify them or did it hail done an edit?Christopher: I was leftover to my own devices. With that scene, the beginning conscription was in all likelihood hardly two pages — a with child tilt. Like, “What Sith Lords can I mention? Oh, , Noctus and Shaa.” And I made roughly up. But and then the list was preposterously long, so I deletion it spinal column to however many it is in the book of account.

Darth Revan with a red lightsaber.Darth Revan with a red lightsaber.

Darth Revan, World Health Organization played a John Major office in the Knights of the Old Republic games and will get back in the upcoming remake, is among the Sith Lords name-chequered in the new.

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I lie with that genial of scarf out. The best sort of tie-in books, whether it’s Principal Wars or Touch on WHO or whatever, if there’s lug that the superfan tail distinguish and acquire a buzz away of — awful. Simply you don’t pauperism to recognise whatever of that; it’s exactly a truly coolheaded and creepy tantrum. And I screw the theme of delivery overindulge into the canon which mayhap wasn’t canon ahead. And adding my ain farce. 

With those Sith Lords. I mean, there’s a twosome I created. And then just about brought from former books or stories, and others that are straight off connected coincidently to Kiza.

Darth Vader on the cover of Star Wars: Dark Legends.Darth Vader on the cover of Star Wars: Dark Legends.

Christopher took inhalation from the stories in Starring Wars: Gloomy Legends.

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Darth Noctyss (which is a real aplomb name) played a major indirect purpose in Tail of the Sith. since Kiza uses the all in Sith Lord’s lightsaber and its curving leaf blade.Christopher: Noctyss is from by Saint George Mann. It’s persona of a serial with and a he co-wrote with Cavan Sir Walter Scott. They’re non canon, they’re queer tales inside the Sensation Wars cosmos. So I idea equal whatever tolerant of caption or myth in our possess world, there’s oft an ingredient of realism. It was a truly cool down opportunity to conniption it all jointly. 

We likewise had Exim Panshard, an ancient Sith Noble WHO sort of lives on and controls Kiza through and through his block out. The flashback to his rule is highly metallic and Gothic architecture.Christopher: It was an chance to delve into an expanse we haven’t seen or heard nearly. World Health Organization knows what geological era he’s from? The flashback is near knightly. And we knew Sith relics, and presumably Jedi artifacts, throne check index. And gooselike populate mean that they commode dominance that power, which is plain a boastful fault.

In the [by author Chuck Wendig], it’s established that the mask echoes with the scream of all the souls of those he’s killed. What did he have to do to generate that kind of power? He thought he could live forever, and in order to do that, he needed the power created by the deaths of as many people as he could kill. It’s destruction on an industrial scale. In the flashback, he has machines built to kill the population of the planet he rules. It’s villainy on a scale you don’t often see.

Kiza first appeared in the Aftermath books, where we got a bit of her background and she was given the mask by one of the Emperor’s advisors because he wanted to use her as a puppet. He knew he couldn’t wear it himself, so he gave it to one of the foolish Acolytes of the Beyond that he could control and gain power from.

It seemed like the threat of Panshard escalated to a level we’ve seldom seen since the novels of the Legends era (stories prior to The Force Awakens’ release) — he became this very heightened villain. Was that something that was in your mind as you wrote?Christopher: It was just kind of how it came out. And as a fan, my bookshelf is full of Star Wars books, which I love and have read for years and years. So I really was just focused on telling the best story that I could.

Panshard is a different kind of Star Wars villain. It’s scary because the readers don’t really know what he can do. And it gets worse for Kiza leading into the finale, which sees Luke and his allies facing off against this monster from another age.

I found it fascinating that Kiza wasn’t redeemed in the end, despite getting every opportunity.Christopher: Redemption is a major theme of Star Wars, but she was lost to the mask. She knew it was going to destroy her, but she couldn’t do anything about it, no matter how much she might have wanted it. It was too strong.

Ochi of Bestoon's face in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.Ochi of Bestoon's face in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.

Ochi of Bestoon, seen in flashback in The Rise of Skywalker, becomes increasingly unhinged in Shadow of the Sith.


Between Kiza with 123English The Reef Stalked Online Movies Watch mask and Ochi with the dagger, I felt like there was a strong theme of addiction with those Sith artifacts. Was that intentional on your part?Christopher: Yeah, because that’s the temptation of the Dark Side and the allure of it. Ochi developed an obsession with Exegol. He went there with Vader in and it was a bad time [Ochi was disfigured]. He wants to get to Exegol again because he thinks it’s a place of rebirth and regeneration. 

Addiction was definitely a deliberate theme of the book, since Kiza and Ochi have these obsessions. Kaiser hates the mask, but she can’t not put it on. Ochi is so obsessed with getting to Exegol that he’ll do anything, so the blade is feeding off his emotions — hatred and obsession — creating a feedback loop. It pumps them back into him.

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Do you think Exegol would have offered Ochi the answers? Because I reckon that place sucks.Christopher: Yeah, Exegol was not the answer.

So, do you have a favorite Easter egg that you’d love for people to notice or appreciate in Shadow of the Sith?Christopher: When Lando orders drinks at the bar [when we first meet him in the novel], the bartender says, “Sip ’em. You’ll live longer.” That’s straight from the . 

Once people have read Shadow of the Sith, are there any Legends novels you’d recommend they jump into? Christopher: The  by Matthew Stober, which is the greatest Star Wars book ever written. And one of my favorite Star Wars authors is Michael A. Stackpole, who wrote ,  and quite a number of other books. There’s an Easter egg about him in Shadow of the Sith, but I’ll leave that as a surprise for people who can spot it.

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